Dealing with Defiant Children in Public Places

2007 July 22
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by brightfeather

This last month while working at the Farmer’s Market I have witnessed several incidents where parents had no idea of how to deal with their child’s defiance effectively. The result was that all those close by had to endure the shrieking, shouting and physical abuse (biting and kicking) the misbehaving children directed at their parents and others.

For years I have suffered from the lack of sales that takes place every time defiant children throw a fit in front of my market sales booth. This is why 5 years ago I decided to take a zero tolerance position when it comes to putting up with an immediate drop in sales when these incidents occur. Since then I have insisted that the parent(s) remove the child from my sales area immediately.

Not surprisingly, given the trend towards “permissive parenting” I have found myself being yelled at by the parents, who were also yelling at each other, while the child is likewise carrying on. However, I have remained firm in my stance and the majority of vendors have likewise taken the same position so now when these incidents occur our security staff are on their toes. If we signal them indicating that we need their help to effect removal they are johnny-on-the-spot.

Objective adults witnessing such scenes have no difficulty when it comes to characterizing what they are. They are power struggles. Nor do we have any doubt that dealing swiftly with a child’s misbehavior — and doing so firmly and consistently — matters more than the details of the response.

I set out to locate background information and effective parenting techniques and I found them on the internet.

Science Daily Reports — New results suggest that defiance toward their mothers when children are very young, may reflect confidence and early autonomy. Researchers worked with 119 mothers and their 14- to 27-month-old children using play time interactions as a means of study. Although high levels of defiance at slightly older ages may be problematic, the research shows that at this age, defiance is part of healthy development. This defiance may in fact reflect children’s emerging autonomy and a confidence that they can control events that are important to them.

Children were most likely to be defiant and least likely to ignore requests when their mothers were sensitive and had few symptoms of depression, and when children were positively interested in their mothers during the interaction. Children of sensitive mothers also tended to be highly cooperative.

Children with mothers who had symptoms of depression were more likely to ignore requests and less likely to respond with defiance. One reason that some children of mothers with such symptoms develop poorly, the researchers suggested, may be that these children do not develop confident assertion with their mothers, learning instead to be overly passive in the face of obstacles.

Those are the findings of a new study conducted by researchers at the University of Texas at Austin and the University of Michigan. The study is published in the July/August 2007 issue of the journal Child Development, Vol. 78, Issue 4, Autonomy and Children’s Reactions to Being Controlled: Evidence That Both Compliance and Defiance May Be Positive Markers in Early Development by Dix, T, Stewart, AD (University of Texas at Austin), Gershoff, ET (University of Michigan), and Day, WH (University of Texas at Austin).

Parenting.com article – Dealing With Defiance

Dealing with outright disobedience is the parenting job we dread most. In part because most of us have no idea how to handle it, but also because decades of advice from parenting experts have both confused us and left us scared that we’ll somehow compromise our darlings’ burgeoning self-esteem if we react in the wrong way.

As a one-size-doesn’t-fit-all guide to solving defiance, there are eight proven and overlapping ways to deal with high-test naughtiness presented in the article. I have simply listed the headings here with my brief comments following them but, I do encourage readers to click through to the article and read the explanations.

  1. Removal – This is the gold standard of defiance busting. When the going gets out of control, simply swoop in and physically leave the store, take him or her out of the sandbox, end the playdate, and head home. In order for this to work, there must be no hesitation on your part.
  2. Create consequences – Remove the child first and define consequences privately.
  3. Expand the consequences - Remove the child first and define further consequences privately.
  4. Empathize – Remove the child first and empathize privately.
  5. Count down – Remove the child first and count down privately.
  6. Laugh it off – This is not an option in a public place.
  7. Make a deal – I disagree with the use of bribery.
  8. Do nothing – This is not an option in a public place.

Lastly, do not take your child to a public place if they are feeling hungry, tired or obstreperous.

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4 Responses
  1. 2007 July 22

    I agree that there are probably many parents out there that could do with parenting training. But, in the past couple of years I have learned that it is impossible to know what a parent and a child might be going through at that time so I try my best not to judge. My child is autistic* and has frequent meltdowns. We try to anticipate them but it is impossible to prevent them at all times. I wouldn’t want this to happen at your booth (or any other booth or store, for that matter) and would be doing my best to control this situation. Parenting strategies for children with autism can be different depending on the child and what is happening. Ignoring the meltdown is usually the quickest way for it to end. My story might not change your policy on zero tolerance but I hope you’ll think about it the next time you encounter a defiant child. *One in 150 children are diagnosed with autism–there are no visible indications that a child has this disorder.

  2. 2007 July 22

    Thank you for your detailed personal reply. You’re correct thinking that your comment will not change my zero tolerance policy.

    I have experience as a caregiver and I’m cognizant of the increasing numbers of children with a wide variety of behaviour problems that tend to become stressed out in public places.

    While I appreciate the fact that most parents try to anticipate the triggering of behavioural outbursts and to avoid them, I do not buy into the “cut them some slack” thinking. Once the outburst commences it’s absolutely unacceptable to expect that others will stand around waiting for it to subside and will cheerfully look forward to waiting out the next child in lines “melt-down” too.

    “Melt-down” behaviour is not tolerated in other indoor places of work and likewise should be tolerated at outdoor places of work like at Farmers’ Markets. Those who pay to be in a time limited spot to sell their products to willing customers are not required and do not desire to cope with “melt-downs”. Serving their customers is already enough to cope with.

    Coping with a defiant or disturbed child’s “melt-down” is a parental responsibility. It is not a “village” responsibility. It’s neither in the best interests of the child nor of those trying to make a living to be compelled or coerced into waiting out “melt-downs” in their place of work and the resulting loss of sales.

    Children learn by repetition and an audience is what some appear to be seeking. This is why I argue that waiting out socially unacceptable behaviour in public places is not in the best interests of society.

    My policy is simple – if a child is not behaving well in a public place then it’s the responsibility of the parent or guardian to remove the child and to deal with their issues.

    If you don’t agree with my policy then I suggest that we agree to disagree, without becoming disagreeable.

    Best wishes to you and your child.

  3. 2007 July 25

    Good points all round. Many parents today shirk their more unpleasant parental duties like discipline by taking the easy way out. Personally, permissive parenting or any other styles are fine. But we should never use them as an excuse to escape the realities of teaching our children the difference between right and wrong, good and bad behaviour, manners and so on. Bible says “spare the rod and spoil the child”, but with Man’s advancement in sciences and other areas, many people today think that they know better. Oh, well, to each his own, I guess.

  4. 2007 July 26

    Children learn by repetition. They also learn through consistent role modeling. The earlier children learn that there are restrictions on behaviour in public places the better it is for them and for society as a whole.

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